TallTexan said:

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Ya that was ridiculous. They've been asleep at the wheel for years and then want to act like the also rans they invited are committed.

Sure, they're all as committed as Nicholls who doesn't go to play postseason sports unless it's an auto bid. They don't want to get better.

The GCU president showed more vision in a 5 minute speech today than the SLC leadership has done in a decade.

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To me commitment is putting effort into more than football and basketball. More and more we've seen the SLC 8 (my term lol) spend money on football and MBB at the expense of most of the other sports. The results are predictable . A few schools that bust through (Nicholls/ UIW) in football but rarely are competitive in the smaller sports. Bummer. Not well rounded.

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I hope the "football" add is very strategic. To me that means we are saturated in Texas. Let's add a N Arizona or N Colorado (if they are willing). Last choice would be Central OK. These schools all have the heft to move to the WAC. Central OK is the only one that isn't D1.

BigJack85 said:

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TallTexan said:

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Ya that was ridiculous. They've been asleep at the wheel for years and then want to act like the also rans they invited are committed.

Sure, they're all as committed as Nicholls who doesn't go to play postseason sports unless it's an auto bid. They don't want to get better.

The GCU president showed more vision in a 5 minute speech today than the SLC leadership has done in a decade.

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To me commitment is putting effort into more than football and basketball. More and more we've seen the SLC 8 (my term lol) spend money on football and MBB at the expense of most of the other sports. The results are predictable . A few schools that bust through (Nicholls/ UIW) in football but rarely are competitive in the smaller sports. Bummer. Not well rounded.

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Divorce can be messy. Finger pointing and blame games all around with this split. In the statement released by the Southland they want to take all the credit for the Texas 4 success. I would say we were successful in spite of the SLC.

I am sure the rest of the schools left are upset that the top 5 schools in the conference are bailing on the Southland and pointing fingers. It seems that the split from the Southland has become messy so better that we leave this summer than stick around another year. Pull the Band-Aid off already.

For those staying in the Southland I hope they put on pressure on the league to step things up and put people in position that can actually move the conference forward. It should be a wakeup call because this is just the beginning of conference realignment they could lose more schools in the future as TV deals get close to rolling for larger conferences.

Chicago State's statement on their departure from the WAC in June 2022.

https://www.gocsucougars.com/documents/2021/1/14/Chicago_State_University_Announces_Plan_to_Leave_Western_Athletic_Conference_in_June_2022_FAQ.pdf

This move was about more than competitive balance. Yes Nicholls won the conference and has built a recently successful football program. UIW had a great year, but that isn't all this was about.

This is about HBU promising to improve their facilities, not doing so, and not being held accountable.
This is about Nicholls turning down a spot in the NIT because they couldn't afford to travel.

The schools were committed to trying to win. I honestly believe that. I also think they were committed to winning on a shoe string budget. None of these schools were willing to invest in their programs like the Texas 4 were willing to. They weren't willing to put in the time and money to help grow the SLC into something more than a punchline.

That is what this was about...

Not sure if this has been posted here or not.

https://www.wacsports.com/expansion/index

cboothe09 said:

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This move was about more than competitive balance. Yes Nicholls won the conference and has built a recently successful football program. UIW had a great year, but that isn't all this was about.

This is about HBU promising to improve their facilities, not doing so, and not being held accountable.
This is about Nicholls turning down a spot in the NIT because they couldn't afford to travel.

The schools were committed to trying to win. I honestly believe that. I also think they were committed to winning on a shoe string budget. None of these schools were willing to invest in their programs like the Texas 4 were willing to. They weren't willing to put in the time and money to help grow the SLC into something more than a punchline.

That is what this was about...

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Well said.

Also, a whole new class of peers gives us another bar to aim for. We've swapped our best competitive peers from being Sam and NWST to NMSU. That's big as Ivey and Gordon go out to chase donations and sell dreams.

Can't get complacent at the top when you've given yourself a better hill to climb.

Interesting. I could see it being a WAC asset in the future bc going to FBS means adding more women's athletic opportunities.

TallTexan said:

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Interesting. I could see it being a WAC asset in the future bc going to FBS means adding more women's athletic opportunities.

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Since SFA and Sam are the only two SLC teams in the eight team Southland Bowling League, it makes sense that it ceases to exist. Does the WAC, or some other conference pick it up?

Beach volleyball is different since Sam and Lamar don't have teams, yet. No idea where that one is going. Side note, we have yet to play a home match. All twelve matches played before the shutdown were on the road.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5aKtdjktiWj7Da9Idwn4P6?si=ewf0n0E7TbuRBEtA7y8gjw

SLC/WAC talk starts at beginning of pod.

https://csnbbs.com/post-17221057.html#pid17221057

Really interesting WAC forum conversations unlike SLC , there are discussions or conspiracies theories from NMSU fans about the Texas 4 plaining on leaving the wac to a better conference (fbs) lol

" However by doing so one or more of the Texas 4 would also have positioned themselves to be potentially more attractive candidates than NMSU to join the Sun Belt or CUSA if either conference had a reason to expand in the next few years. This could happen if the Sun Belt decided to add a couple of Texas members to fill in the geographic gap between Louisiana Lafayette and Texas State, or if the MWC lost Boise State to the AAC and backfilled with one to three Texas CUSA members and CUSA wanted replacements, or if some other realignment earthquake came along."

" Having said that, I wouldn't be worried that all of the Texas WAC members might leave en masse to join another conference or start their own conference."

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https://csnbbs.com/post-17221057.html#pid17221057

Really interesting WAC forum conversations unlike SLC , there are discussions or conspiracies theories from NMSU fans about the Texas 4 plaining on leaving the wac to a better conference (fbs) lol

" However by doing so one or more of the Texas 4 would also have positioned themselves to be potentially more attractive candidates than NMSU to join the Sun Belt or CUSA if either conference had a reason to expand in the next few years. This could happen if the Sun Belt decided to add a couple of Texas members to fill in the geographic gap between Louisiana Lafayette and Texas State, or if the MWC lost Boise State to the AAC and backfilled with one to three Texas CUSA members and CUSA wanted replacements, or if some other realignment earthquake came along."

" Having said that, I wouldn't be worried that all of the Texas WAC members might leave en masse to join another conference or start their own conference."

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Wow. That's a mouthful of conspiracies rolled into one paragraph. Our future has already been spelled out for us. And yet none of the "Texas 4" has even played a WAC game yet. Amazing!

I don't know if this comment should be filed under Southland and the NCAA or basketball? Here goes. One bit of confirmation that the SLC brain trust had an idea that UIW and HBU would bring any kind of media coverage was a complete and total mirage. I looked for a SFA vs UIW write up in the primary print/digital source "San Antonio Express News" sports section. Nothing NADA ZIP. Just more evidence that the farcical additions were step one in the year by year dissolution of the Southland.

BigJack85 said:

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I don't know if this comment should be filed under Southland and the NCAA or basketball? Here goes. One bit of confirmation that the SLC brain trust had an idea that UIW and HBU would bring any kind of media coverage was a complete and total mirage. I looked for a SFA vs UIW write up in the primary print/digital source "San Antonio Express News" sports section. Nothing NADA ZIP. Just more evidence that the farcical additions were step one in the year by year dissolution of the Southland.

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This should probably be high on the consideration list for any new schools.

If you don't get good coverage in your area, you're simply not gonna be a good add.

Good Read on the plan

https://sports.yahoo.com/will-wa-cs-return-in-football-lead-to-a-revival-of-the-glory-days-023123013.html

SFAXE93 said:

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Good Read on the plan

https://sports.yahoo.com/will-wa-cs-return-in-football-lead-to-a-revival-of-the-glory-days-023123013.html

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Yes, a good read, but it didn't say anything that we didn't already know. But coming from Yahoo, it helps to get the word out to the country about the rebirth of the WAC, which is good for us.

Rumors. I do know February 1, is the deadline.

The WAC will already have its auto bid.
Unless somethings changed, Tarleton and Dixie will have a waiver making them eligible and making it 6 football schools in the WAC for the 2021 season. If not all WAC schools will essentially play an independent season without an auto bid, but will still be eligible.