What did he say?BigJack85 said:
When the AD at NWST weighs in over Twitter about Southland Conference departures, you know that something is happening.
Which conference would you move to?
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SFAJack_76 said:What did he say?BigJack85 said:
When the AD at NWST weighs in over Twitter about Southland Conference departures, you know that something is happening.
He weighed in on Northwestern State's attendance figures relative to SLC powers Sam , SFA and Lamar. I might be reading something into it , but I also thought it was odd that he would weigh on a thread of tweets about the demise of the SLC.
So it begins.
I just want to see the plan. I trust Ivey, but I really want to know how this is going to work.
cboothe09 said:
I just want to see the plan. I trust Ivey, but I really want to know how this is going to work.
Same. What's the strategery here other than dumping the Louisiana schools?
Trust. Trust the plan.
Curious what you mean by "the plan." Financial, organizational, logistical, promotional, etc?cboothe09 said:
I just want to see the plan. I trust Ivey, but I really want to know how this is going to work.
I will. I just need to hear it first.BigJack85 said:
Trust. Trust the plan.
To me?SFAJack_76 said:Curious what you mean by "the plan." Financial, organizational, logistical, promotional, etc?cboothe09 said:
I just want to see the plan. I trust Ivey, but I really want to know how this is going to work.
I want to see what makes this a better option than the SLC, other than the slight advantage of ditching a few bad schools. How do we get to a multi-bid league, whether the WAC or future.
Are there any minimum budget requirements for the WAC to make everyone competitive? Any strategic plans for Conference challenges? How will we get a true tv deal? Is Chicago State or Seattle leaving? What are the future football plans for the conference, is FBS in the future?
Is NM State going to play FCS?
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
TallTexan said:To me?SFAJack_76 said:Curious what you mean by "the plan." Financial, organizational, logistical, promotional, etc?cboothe09 said:
I just want to see the plan. I trust Ivey, but I really want to know how this is going to work.
I want to see what makes this a better option than the SLC, other than the slight advantage of ditching a few bad schools. How do we get to a multi-bid league, whether the WAC or future.
Are there any minimum budget requirements for the WAC to make everyone competitive? Any strategic plans for Conference challenges? How will we get a true tv deal? Is Chicago State or Seattle leaving? What are the future football plans for the conference, is FBS in the future?
I think those questions will be answered pretty quick The way it works, IF it works, has to do with the divisional alignment. It's been tried before, studied , etc. At least we won't be a guinea pig. Maybe the kinks have been worked out.
Financial. I have no idea but one thing is for sure, it cannot be worse than zero, which is about what SLC media rights are worth.
BigJack85 said:
Financial. I have no idea but one thing is for sure, it cannot be worse than zero, which is about what SLC media rights are worth.
Exactly this. If there's anything we can have the most hope for, it will be that the WAC will be a better financial option for all schools involved. Better exposure and an actual desire to get the brand out there, as opposed to the SLC who appears to be content with a mediocre media team.
NM is an awesome state.nacluth said:
Is NM State going to play FCS?
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
If I had to rank our US neighbors:
NM
Arkansas
LA
BIG GAP:
OK
I honestly wouldn't mind a trip to NM every other year. Get to watch football in great stadium and then enjoy the mountains.
Let's see, we need 11 games for an FCS conference typically?
What's that look like?
1 Buy game:
D2 home game:
NMSU game
6 game conference schedule
NSU game
Additional FCS game
What's that look like?
1 Buy game:
D2 home game:
NMSU game
6 game conference schedule
NSU game
Additional FCS game
I doubt that NM State goes FCS.nacluth said:
Is NM State going to play FCS?
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
No way that NM state goes FCS. I expect to see them leave for a bigger conference in a couple of years when the Big 12 and some other conference TV deals get redone and musical chairs begin.SFAJack_76 said:I doubt that NM State goes FCS.nacluth said:
Is NM State going to play FCS?
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
CertifiedAxeman98 said:No way that NM state goes FCS. I expect to see them leave for a bigger conference in a couple of years when the Big 12 and some other conference TV deals get redone and musical chairs begin.SFAJack_76 said:I doubt that NM State goes FCS.nacluth said:
Is NM State going to play FCS?
On a side note, I drove through Las Cruces this summer. I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful town. I could see why someone would want to go to school there.
I would have said the same thing last year. The knight report may nudge college athletics towards football realignment. It may pay for New Mexico St to have friends in Texas.
Financial and logistical are the biggest that I want to know. I'm all for expending our horizons, but I don't want eyes bigger than our stomachs. This may be a FCS conference, but it is spread out. Football isn't the sport that scares me in this scenario. It is the non-revenue sports that currently don't cost much. Add in trips to Southern Utah or Grand Canyon and things start adding up QUICK.
Promotional I think this will stand on its own well. NMSU is the crown jewel, and GCU has build a brand (Overrated but a known brand). Add in SFA and ACU and there is opportunity for a stronger perceived conference.
Promotional I think this will stand on its own well. NMSU is the crown jewel, and GCU has build a brand (Overrated but a known brand). Add in SFA and ACU and there is opportunity for a stronger perceived conference.
Well that makes it look like it's less in the bag than Matt Brown hopes.
I find it odd that D2 schools moving up are ineligible for the postseason. I feel like it should be FBS moving down to FCS that would be ineligible due to the talent gap, not the other way around.
Ya it's kinda a dumb rule.
KirkHeath12 said:
https://sportsenthusiasts.net/2020/10/23/wacs-southland-conference-overtures-make-little-sense-for-the-schools/
Read that article. Kind of one dimensional... travel.
This is a great article and further explains why logistically a move to the WAC makes little sense for SFA. I'm not a fan of the Southland Conference but our travel budget would go through the roof once you factor in all of the other sports that would be a part of any conference move.
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Yeah, so, the summary is we would have to travel 849 extra miles? And I'm assuming that guy thinks that doubling the travel also means doubling the cost? Riding an extra 200 miles one weekend on a bus is nothing. Budget wouldn't go through the roof. If it would...we wouldn't be considering it.BigJack85 said:KirkHeath12 said:
https://sportsenthusiasts.net/2020/10/23/wacs-southland-conference-overtures-make-little-sense-for-the-schools/
Read that article. Kind of one dimensional... travel.
The majority of our games would still be regional like they are now. We travel out of state for a game almost every year anyway, now we may actually have a BETTER chance of traveling less for OOC games being able to schedule the likes of NWST, McNeese, SLU, etc if we wanted to. While still being able to get a $$$ game in to combat budget costs, and perhaps get more $ from these games if we're attached to a better conference?
This move affects 13 other sports (combining track and field and cross country as I assume the men and women would travel together). Right now those teams bus to every conference game/event . Under the current proposal, those teams would be getting on a plane a ton to travel to Arizona, California, Illinois, New Mexico, Utah and Washington for conference games.
Ya. I think it's pointless to argue most of this. I'm NOT a fan of flying volleyball across the western USA. Like purple, I believe our travel will largely (80%+) regional. SFA made the choice to play it "safe" years ago. Fast forward to 2012, the SLC decided to dig into the dumpster to find new members. Being the 30th ranked basketball conference and the 6th ranked FCS conference is not cool.
Travel is going to suck.
What about our championship bowling team?
And does this mean we could get men's soccer?
What about our championship bowling team?
And does this mean we could get men's soccer?
No way bowling leaves the Southland. There's just too few bowling conferences and the SLC is still the top rated.
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