Jacks4460 said:

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No clue..Sounds like they don't..

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That's ridiculous if it is the case...

SFAJack_76 said:

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Almost certain the university does buy the rings. This appears to be a new way of raising funds through the use of crowdfunding. It is being run by the Office of Development.

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It sounds like a good way to raise funds... If you don't ask you don't get...

I guess im just confused is all... asked for some clarification on twitter. I just like some transparency

Pilotgirl said:

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I guess im just confused is all... asked for some clarification on twitter. I just like some transparency

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I'm confused, too. So, the university buys the rings -- using money from a fundraiser??? That sounds like something a high school would do. Someone tell me I've misunderstood.

edstile said:

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Pilotgirl said:

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I guess im just confused is all... asked for some clarification on twitter. I just like some transparency

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I'm confused, too. So, the university buys the rings -- using money from a fundraiser??? That sounds like something a high school would do. Someone tell me I've misunderstood.

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You did not misunderstand. This is a travesty, IMO.

Pilotgirl said:

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edstile said:

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Pilotgirl said:

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I guess im just confused is all... asked for some clarification on twitter. I just like some transparency

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I'm confused, too. So, the university buys the rings -- using money from a fundraiser??? That sounds like something a high school would do. Someone tell me I've misunderstood.

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You did not misunderstand. This is a travesty, IMO.

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If you think our Ath Dept rakes in the money you are mistaken.. This is just a way to help raise money to buy the ladies rings... If you can't or do not want to donate to the cause then just don't.. but calling them high school isn't right...I see now what the last Ath Department came up against when it comes to raising funds... People were getting mad at them when they asked for funds so they stopped asking... This is just another way of fundraising... Maybe it is to make the ladies rings a little nicer than what was planned.. Far far from a travesty..

It's all a part of the players maintaining their "Amateur" status. If the school provides out of budget, it could be considered a form of compensation.
NCAA...Gotta love it

cboothe09 said:

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It's all a part of the players maintaining their "Amateur" status. If the school provides out of budget, it could be considered a form of compensation.
NCAA...Gotta love it

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Exactly right. A loophole for rings though as well as a certain few gifts.

just can't believe it isnt somewhere in the budget for these Ladies to earn their hard fought Bling! Just surprised & wanted to share bc I was confused about purpose is all. Didn't call them high school I was there supporting them last night)....So please do not get snippy with me sir. I just wanted to share the info & let others know! My daughter is actually more horrified than me (about rings)...she had a few choice words that cannot be repeated here Lol

Meanwhile, great to see our Ladyjacks on this list.

SFAJack_76 said:

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Meanwhile, great to see our Ladyjacks on this list.

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AMAZING

SFAJack_76 said:

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Meanwhile, great to see our Ladyjacks on this list.

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Some good company there.

Pilotgirl said:

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just can't believe it isnt somewhere in the budget for these Ladies to earn their hard fought Bling! Just surprised & wanted to share bc I was confused about purpose is all. Didn't call them high school I was there supporting them last night)....So please do not get snippy with me sir. I just wanted to share the info & let others know! My daughter is actually more horrified than me (about rings)...she had a few choice words that cannot be repeated here Lol

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I think he was referring to my high school comment, not to anything you said, Pilot.

If it would be a violation of NCAA rules for the school to buy them, then it makes sense. But if it's simply "not in their budget", then as someone who oversaw a $10,000,000 budget in my earlier days, I don't understand why their budget can't be adjusted as needed. It's a common practice in business. Move funds from one part of the budget to another. We did it all the time. The bottom line remains the same, and that's all that matters. Perhaps public institutions are not allowed to do that??

nacluth said:

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cboothe09 said:

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It's all a part of the players maintaining their "Amateur" status. If the school provides out of budget, it could be considered a form of compensation.
NCAA...Gotta love it

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Exactly right. A loophole for rings though as well as a certain few gifts.

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There definitely should be a championship ring loophole or if the conference gave them a budget, like 200 per.

But if we're waiting for the NCAA to be sane, we're going to be waiting a long, long time.

What I have found as to what is permissible.

"16.1.4.2 Awards for Winning Conference and National Championships. [A] Awards for winning an individual or team conference or national championship may be presented each year, limited in value and number as specified in Figure 16-2. Awards for winning a conference or national championship in a team sport may be provided only to student- athletes who were eligible to participate in the championship event. The total value of any single award received for a national championship may not exceed $415. The total value of any single award received for a conference championship may not exceed $325, and each permissible awarding agency is subject to a separate $325 limit per award. Each permissible awarding agency may provide only a single award for each championship to each student-athlete. Separate awards may be presented to both the regular-season conference champion and the postseason conference champion (with a separate $325 limitation), but if the same institution wins both the regular-season and postseason conference championship, the combined value of both awards shall not exceed $325. [R] (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, 8/7/14)"

If I am interpreting this correctly, the issue is not ncaa regulations, but rather an athletic department that does not have the funds for these awards. The lack of fund raising, and the students voting down the athletic fee create this situation. Current reality.

Edit: This is cited from the 2018-2019 NCAA Division 1 Manual. https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

SFAJack_76 said:

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What I have found as to what is permissible.

"16.1.4.2 Awards for Winning Conference and National Championships.

If I am interpreting this correctly, the issue is not ncaa regulations, but rather an athletic department that does not have the funds for these awards. The lack of fund raising, and the students voting down the athletic fee create this situation. Current reality.

Edit: This is cited from the 2018-2019 NCAA Division 1 Manual. https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

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Great research, 76.

edstile said:

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SFAJack_76 said:

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What I have found as to what is permissible.

"16.1.4.2 Awards for Winning Conference and National Championships.

If I am interpreting this correctly, the issue is not ncaa regulations, but rather an athletic department that does not have the funds for these awards. The lack of fund raising, and the students voting down the athletic fee create this situation. Current reality.

Edit: This is cited from the 2018-2019 NCAA Division 1 Manual. https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

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Great research, 76.

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Awsome job 76... You are spot on... SFA alumni have to change their way of $upporting if they want to attract the top student/Ath. Not having the ath fee puts us at a disadvantage with other Universities. So the Ath dept has to start thinking out of the box on how to raise funds to pay for the extra things the student/ath deserves.. Ryan and this department are gonna be hustlers and will try all different avenues to raise the capital needed...

I donated $50 to the cause. I'm sure it's money well spent. As a fan I'm not opposed to having some additional "skin in the game". Frankly if more of us (not the people on The Sawmill) had skin in the game we'd probably be better funded!!! It's all good in my mind.

Axe 'Em Jacks....

BigJack85 said:

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I donated $50 to the cause. I'm sure it's money well spent. As a fan I'm not opposed to having some additional "skin in the game". Frankly if more of us (not the people on The Sawmill) had skin in the game we'd probably be better funded!!! It's all good in my mind.

Axe 'Em Jacks....

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I know they appreciate it BigJack...Even if it was $5-$10 a lot of those add up quickly...

PurpleForever said:

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I've worked for other schools and spoken with many athletic departments about funding and we will NEVER be on par with other schools until we get an athletic fee. The amount of money that alone brings in can make a big impact.

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I was told if the athletic fee ever came into effect at our school then that would be a "major game changer" when it comes to having the proper training and studying facilities for our young student-athletes...

Up two spots in RPI.

BigJack85 said:

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Yes. If a 100 people gave $20 we probably have it covered.

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Um, no. It would take 240 donations of $20 to cover the goal of $4,774. 96 at $50 will cover it.

Good for them.

Looks like the Sawmillers have already bought a ring and are heading to #2... Thanks for the donations it is appreciated very much and plus the ladies deserve to have nice rings...

Jacks4460 said:

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Looks like the Sawmillers have already bought a ring and are heading to #2... Thanks for the donations it is appreciated very much and plus the ladies deserve to have nice rings...

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Yes sir! Great opportunity to show them our support.

https://graphite.sfasu.edu/impact-crowdfunding/project/3