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In reply to Pilotgirl • 7:42p, 2/16/19
Pilotgirl said:
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Prison Tech didn't do us any favors, losing to Lamar 75-72.


Can't count on a Bearkat for anything! I actually dislike Lamar wayyy more than Sam.


Still the only 18-0 SLC teams belong to us...well technically 20-0 through conference play.
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In reply to Pilotgirl • 8:35p, 2/16/19
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SFA Jack Fanatic said:
Prison Tech didn't do us any favors, losing to Lamar 75-72.


Can't count on a Bearkat for anything! I actually dislike Lamar wayyy more than Sam.

I dislike Lamar but I absolutely HATE Prison Tech. Always have and always will.
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In reply to Pilotgirl • 9:31p, 2/16/19
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Sheesh! Already complaining/writing off NEXT season...mmmm ok. At least the majority of SFA fans are supportive, so GO JACKS AND LADYJACKS!!!


You can be supportive of your school and questioning of the direction/coaching it looks to have. Those things aren't mutually exclusive and we need to stop acting like they are.

I'm not going to quote the other posts but I have my concerns. We are a team ripe with talent and can't put **** together. We have a seven footer who can't rebound, and we depend on two guys to carry us. We lose one of those guys at the end of this season. Yes, injuries have hurt but we knew of those injuries in November and it's ****ing February. Adjustments SHOULD have been made by now.

I don't think Keller is a good coach. I think he's mediocre. Flame away at me all you want but there's nothing showing otherwise right now.
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In reply to TheRevSFA • 10:06p, 2/16/19
TheRevSFA said:
Pilotgirl said:
Sheesh! Already complaining/writing off NEXT season...mmmm ok. At least the majority of SFA fans are supportive, so GO JACKS AND LADYJACKS!!!


You can be supportive of your school and questioning of the direction/coaching it looks to have. Those things aren't mutually exclusive and we need to stop acting like they are.

I'm not going to quote the other posts but I have my concerns. We are a team ripe with talent and can't put **** together. We have a seven footer who can't rebound, and we depend on two guys to carry us. We lose one of those guys at the end of this season. Yes, injuries have hurt but we knew of those injuries in November and it's ****ing February. Adjustments SHOULD have been made by now.

I don't think Keller is a good coach. I think he's mediocre. Flame away at me all you want but there's nothing showing otherwise right now.
Keller is a fine coach and its really hard to coach a team with no point guards. Has anyone played basketball on this chain? Bogues is not a distributing guard he is a shooting guard. Who are your distribution guards? Comeaux is what he is a ok minute cruncher who wont kill the flow but is not and should not be confused with a Jarrett Culver or Kevin Porter Jr who can light up and lift. Jock Hughes has been injured and I cant speak to his distribution skills but in high school dude was a light it up 3 point specialist. Oddyst Walker...maybe...dude tries hard but I haven't seen enough of him to really know whats there. I am seeing a team who basically has become way too dependent on 2 people and the others just pander to that offensive scheme and don't have any confidence in their offensive game. At this point just let Harris and Bogues sit together for a few minutes a game and see who is capable of stepping up.

Defense seems to be man most of the time and the problems come when players leave their man to help out and the other team sees this and passes to a wide open player for an easy shot. Defense is sloppy for sure and I think it might also be players don't feel engaged as they don't get many offensive touches and if you have played you know that your juice gets flowing when you offensive gets flowing. I think the team is bored honestly.

We have two nice athletes coming in who graded really high but both are forwards Hart and Pope so there better be a plan of action to either find a grad transfer guard looking to make an impact or a JUCO dude who can distribute as well as he can shoot. Holyfield isn't coming back...I cant say that 100% but if he was I would think he would have said something by now. What is all this talk of Mitch Seraille transferring. Why would he transfer. Is he going to suddenly going to get high P5 scholarship offers or find a better situation than the one he will see next year starting and having significant more focus on his game? I don't think so. As with TJ...I don't have any info from anyone other than my gut.

Its a bad year....bad team players cleared out....bad injuries screwed up momentum and bad luck was also evident with teams we play going off in ways that don't normally do. It happens man and it stinks but we are SF freaking A and we are going to make these teams who beat us this year have burn marks on the ass-es when we are done with our come back tour next season. Go Jacks!
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In reply to migata33 • 10:22p, 2/16/19
migata33 said:


Defense seems to be man most of the time and the problems come when players leave their man to help out and the other team sees this and passes to a wide open player for an easy shot. Defense is sloppy for sure and I think it might also be players don't feel engaged as they don't get many offensive touches and if you have played you know that your juice gets flowing when you offensive gets flowing. I think the team is bored honestly.
You know, we do a decent amount of help defense. But now that you mention it, one guy screwing up probably leads to fewer open 3s than trying to rescue a guy who got beat for a 2 and leaving the perimeter wide open.
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In reply to TheRevSFA • 6:32a, 2/17/19
TheRevSFA said:
Pilotgirl said:
Sheesh! Already complaining/writing off NEXT season...mmmm ok. At least the majority of SFA fans are supportive, so GO JACKS AND LADYJACKS!!!


You can be supportive of your school and questioning of the direction/coaching it looks to have. Those things aren't mutually exclusive and we need to stop acting like they are.

I'm not going to quote the other posts but I have my concerns. We are a team ripe with talent and can't put **** together. We have a seven footer who can't rebound, and we depend on two guys to carry us. We lose one of those guys at the end of this season. Yes, injuries have hurt but we knew of those injuries in November and it's ****ing February. Adjustments SHOULD have been made by now.

I don't think Keller is a good coach. I think he's mediocre. Flame away at me all you want but there's nothing showing otherwise right now.


Question all you want. I don't care. I'm just saying it's not cool to write off next season when this one isn't even over. That's ridiculous bullsh**.

It's a bad year. Yup. Due to many variables. Being supportive means you still show up as a fan, which is part of maintaining a good program. And not just criticize. I get that it's everyone's right to do that in a forum. And this is just a general statement, not to anyone in particular. But if people criticize all the time and make erroneous statements, then others can certainly call them out or make posts that are more opptimistic.

But...don't tell me how to act. Ive questioned many things about Keller...haven't posted it here, some I have or agreed with others.
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7:42a, 2/17/19
Remaining schedule:
Corpus(home)
UIW(home)
Central Arkansas
Lamar
ACU
SHSU(HOME)

The next two are definitely winnable, especially with a home crowd. If we can play like a team like we did in the first half yesterday, but carry it for a full game, we can win most SLC games.

But let's go get that one on Wednesday.
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7:49a, 2/17/19
Also, who the heck made a schedule where we go from Central Ark, to Lamar to ACU in 8 days?

2nd time we've crisscrossed the conference completely this season for at least back to back games. It's funny, we use the Southland Strong hashtag, but the conference isn't good at scheduling, isn't good at expansion, isn't good at hiring refs, and isn't good at responding to any legitimate complaint brought before them. #AmateurHourConference
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In reply to migata33 • 7:59a, 2/17/19
Migata33, agree completely.

The single biggest criticism I have of the current staff is the void in high quality PG recruiting. We have done a nice job recruiting shooting guards and athletic forwards. I repeat for the umpteenth time, PG is the most important position on the team. Put a Trey Pinkney or Marcus Clark on this team, and we are having different results.
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8:12a, 2/17/19
This made me chuckle.

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8:27a, 2/17/19
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I think everything is fair. I again just ask that we not speculate TOO much. I've heard a few things that shouldn't be repeated on a public forum, but criticism is perfectly fine. And agree that it's too early to know about next season. Even if several of the things that we've heard are true and more bad stuff happens, we don't know who we'll bring in. We don't know what changes will happen.

The lack of adjustments is definitely fair and my biggest criticism of the season. How many times do simple scripted plays work to perfection against us? Yesterday in the first half when we let a team yet again run an inbound play under their basket, leaving the inbound person to walk 3 feet for a WIDE open three...I lost it. I lost it.
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In reply to TallTexan • 9:58a, 2/17/19
TallTexan said:
This made me chuckle.



I see a player who is terrified to shoot.

But, that's just me.
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In reply to MasterAxe • 10:11a, 2/17/19
He was definitely hesitant, which made the way SFA basketball described it even funnier.

Sounds like maybe they've been trying to get him to take more shots and wanted to needle him about it a bit.
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In reply to PurpleOut • 10:19a, 2/17/19
PurpleOut said:
I think everything is fair. I again just ask that we not speculate TOO much. I've heard a few things that shouldn't be repeated on a public forum, but criticism is perfectly fine. And agree that it's too early to know about next season. Even if several of the things that we've heard are true and more bad stuff happens, we don't know who we'll bring in. We don't know what changes will happen.

The lack of adjustments is definitely fair and my biggest criticism of the season. How many times do simple scripted plays work to perfection against us? Yesterday in the first half when we let a team yet again run an inbound play under their basket, leaving the inbound person to walk 3 feet for a WIDE open three...I lost it. I lost it.


The fact that we are on this forum speaks to the dedication and fanaticism of the a small but vocal part of the Lumberjack fan base. 12 other Southland schools would love to have the fan base we have here.

Regarding specific criticism and speculation; I agree there are comments that may be on the cusp of "inside information" that should not be on the public forum. I haven't seen anything that would qualify but I could be wrong. I don't have any inside information so my comments are entirely based on what I see and hear antidotally.

Let's win 3 or more to close out the season.
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In reply to migata33 • 10:33a, 2/17/19
Once again Migata I find your analysis of the season to be spot on....we have had a number of issues this year to be sure but the lack of a true point guard is our biggest on court issue....you can not win with any consistency with a makeshift PG. Bogues is great but not a PG and playing out of his position sometimes handcuffs his game as well.
TJ, defections, "can Keller coach", rumors of the fall of the empire have also plagued us this season but put a Pinkney or Clark at the point and we would be right at the top of things even with the other problems.

The off season is drawing close so fairly soon we will see what transpires with players and coaches, what speculation comes to pass (or not), who gets recruited (Juco or freshman) etc...but I do know that come next November we will all be here to support the Jacks in the new season. We may not all support in the same "style" as the next forum member but I know we all want SFA to succeed athletically and as a University.
Different paths, different ideas, different means to the ends, same goal....GO JACKS.
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In reply to nacluth • 10:55a, 2/17/19
nacluth said:
Pilotgirl said:
SFA Jack Fanatic said:
Prison Tech didn't do us any favors, losing to Lamar 75-72.


Can't count on a Bearkat for anything! I actually dislike Lamar wayyy more than Sam.


Still the only 18-0 SLC teams belong to us...well technically 20-0 through conference play.


Does that mean we get to pop the cork like the undefeated Miami Dolphins team when that final undefeated chance goes under? I like that tradition.
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In reply to MasterAxe • 11:00a, 2/17/19
Yep, that was a perfect example of no confidence, but it only takes one to get that confidence back. I'm hoping that was the one. I never underestimate the mental aspect of coming back once you've been injured. It's why sports psychology is a vocation.
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11:10a, 2/17/19
I keep hearing as a negative that we may to have to rely on a Juco transfer. Well, I believe Canete and Gilmore were Juco transfers, to name a few, it's just part of the game now and Keller (or Mason) has proved he can get that player. My glasses may be too purple, but his year does not feel like the downturn of the program. There are a multitude of reasons (not excuses) for this year.
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11:28a, 2/17/19
I would probably prefer a JUCO Pg at this point. We don't have time to mold another freshmen pg. our last 2 are not even here rn. We need good proven JUCO players . 90 percent of the hs pg's we can recruit will not be ready for cbb.Juco has done us well. Outside of Harris they have been our best recruits in the last 3 years.
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11:34a, 2/17/19
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
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11:42a, 2/17/19
JUCO Top 100 (please, let's not talk about #2)
https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2019-juco-basketball-top-100-rankings

We don't need a top 100 player but there are probably plenty of non 100 left
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11:49a, 2/17/19
I agree with some previous assessments that Comeaux is more of a minute chewer and shouldn't be our starting point guard if we want to be in the mix next year. We also have to get Kevon, Bain and Mitch all back at 100%. With a PG we could have a strong starting 5. Does Mitch return? I think yes.

The trajectory of the program is clearly in question. In the regular season we are T4th, T3rd and probably 7th under Keller. That's not a trend line that anyone likes. Next year if we finish middle of the pack I think the cake will be baked.
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In reply to Jacks4460 • 12:21p, 2/17/19
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
I think we'll see a decent amount of grad transfers and transfers who come available for us to recruit. Similar to what we just saw happen with football.
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In reply to Jacks4460 • 1:03p, 2/17/19
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
And, a lot have not signed yet. Regular signing period is April 17 to May 15. Still about 60 days to recruit, and still a great program to recruit to.
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1:04p, 2/17/19
Went back and unscientifically pulled, according to the Southland, the final regular season finish for the Jacks - not the tourney seed. (Parenthesis are how we would have finished sans divisions based on record) We won't really know if this year is an anomaly or not until next year I think it is. But I think we won't see the dominance of 2013-2016 for a while that was extremely special. Again, I think our demise based on this year is greatly exaggerated, but we should expect (barring the problems that hit us this year) to be in the top 3 every year IMHO.
2019 8th?
2018 3rd
2017 T2nd
2016 1st
2015 1st
2014 1st
2013 1st
2012 2nd West (2nd)
2011 3rd West (6th)
2010 1st East (2nd)
2009 1st East (1st)
2008 1st West (T1st)
2007 3rd West (T5th)
2006 T4th
2005 9th
2004 4th
2003 2nd
2002 5th
2001 10th
2000 11th
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1:11p, 2/17/19
Great work RedRiver.
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In reply to SFAJack_76 • 1:23p, 2/17/19
SFAJack_76 said:
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
And, a lot have not signed yet. Regular signing period is April 17 to May 15. Still about 60 days to recruit, and still a great program to recruit to.


The top talent is already signed or committed.. I wish we were in on some of the JUCO talent still out there but we are not.. Except for the TJC kid that just happend last week.. I would say our program is in a downward spiral.. I would say our great University is what we can recruit them too.
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In reply to SFAJack_76 • 1:24p, 2/17/19
SFAJack_76 said:
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
And, a lot have not signed yet. Regular signing period is April 17 to May 15. Still about 60 days to recruit, and still a great program to recruit to.


I think we made an offer to a Juco from TJC. Point guard.
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In reply to Jacks4460 • 1:35p, 2/17/19
Jacks4460 said:
SFAJack_76 said:
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
And, a lot have not signed yet. Regular signing period is April 17 to May 15. Still about 60 days to recruit, and still a great program to recruit to.


The top talent is already signed or committed.. I wish we were in on some of the JUCO talent still out there but we are not.. Except for the TJC kid that just happend last week.. I would say our program is in a downward spiral.. I would say our great University is what we can recruit them too.
Yeah and Grad transfers have not even requested transfers yet. For example TJ. There we will be a lot of grad transfer. There was hundreds of grad transfers summer.
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In reply to sfa17 • 1:39p, 2/17/19
sfa17 said:
Jacks4460 said:
SFAJack_76 said:
Jacks4460 said:
A lot of the JUCO talent is already signed for next year..
And, a lot have not signed yet. Regular signing period is April 17 to May 15. Still about 60 days to recruit, and still a great program to recruit to.


The top talent is already signed or committed.. I wish we were in on some of the JUCO talent still out there but we are not.. Except for the TJC kid that just happend last week.. I would say our program is in a downward spiral.. I would say our great University is what we can recruit them too.
Yeah and Grad transfers have not even requested transfers yet. For example TJ. There we will be a lot of grad transfer. There was hundreds of grad transfers summer.


You are right... Nevada loaded up and had to cut that good player from A&M COrpus Christi..We are gonna have to get at the minimum 8 new players for next year.. Number could be closer to 10.. We will have to see how this season ends... I hope I am wrong..
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2:22p, 2/17/19
By roster we should have: TJ, Kevon, Nate, Samuli, John, Mitchell, Jock, and Oddyst back. That leaves 5 open scholarships.

You're insinuating that we're losing three to five of these players? I'm not saying you are wrong, but that's a lot of paid college degrees to give up.
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In reply to TallTexan • 2:26p, 2/17/19
TallTexan said:
He was definitely hesitant, which made the way SFA basketball described it even funnier.

Sounds like maybe they've been trying to get him to take more shots and wanted to needle him about it a bit.


We were shouting "SHOOT THE BALL" in the stands, too....LOL
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In reply to nacluth • 3:21p, 2/17/19
nacluth said:
By roster we should have: TJ, Kevon, Nate, Samuli, John, Mitchell, Jock, and Oddyst back. That leaves 5 open scholarships.

You're insinuating that we're losing three to five of these players? I'm not saying you are wrong, but that's a lot of paid college degrees to give up.


My guess is that we lose 2. I hope one of them is not Mitchell. If Mitch comes back we are probably a contender. You've got the best 3 and 4 in league,,, probably. Nate is a good 2/3 off the bench. I think Oddyst is our 2 going forward unless he crashes and burns. I don't see that. He looks to be the same type of guy as Walkup in terms of matchup issues.

If we get a really solid point guard out of the Juco ranks we might be alright.
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3:56p, 2/17/19
There are a few things where you can hold question marks to this coaching staff. Identifying and recruiting talent is not one of them. I have faith they will round out a very solid class before next season...
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In reply to cboothe09 • 4:04p, 2/17/19
cboothe09 said:
There are a few things where you can hold question marks to this coaching staff. Identifying and recruiting talent is not one of them. I have faith they will round out a very solid class before next season...
. Agreed. Seems the issue is deployment......
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