sfajack05 said:

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SFA Jack Fanatic said:

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Makes no sense to take pot shots at each other on here. Stop it!

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We have officially reached true college sports message board by taking shots at each other.

We have come a long ways since the Delphi boards.

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Great throwback to the Delphi boards.

So how is everyone?

sfajack05 said:

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So how is everyone?

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I had fun. That's what really counts.

No way but up , from here.

TallTexan said:

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This is a small change that costs us literally nothing, but if our coaching staff would be pro-transfer portal instead of anti-transfer, that would be fantastic.

We talk constantly about these teams that had seemingly fast turnarounds and they often take a lot of transfers those first few years.

Sam used to get a few good P5 transfers every year who'd contribute when they were moving from average to solidly good too.

Then Carthel comes out and says things like "kids who transfer are quitters".

But our starting QBs both did. We obviously take transfers. Constantly. We should be vocally pro-transfer instead of the opposite.

It might be the difference between picking up another difference maker or two every cycle.

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In fairness I think Carthel's quote was more geared towards players who are big time contributors or stars for their team and then leaving for no reason other than to "play up", not transfers in general.

But I agree, we should take full advantage of the transfer portal. As you said, the one year short term turnarounds are usually fueled by transfers. Plenty of P5 backups would love to come be a star at an FCS school.

SFASawmillGuy said:

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TallTexan said:

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This is a small change that costs us literally nothing, but if our coaching staff would be pro-transfer portal instead of anti-transfer, that would be fantastic.

We talk constantly about these teams that had seemingly fast turnarounds and they often take a lot of transfers those first few years.

Sam used to get a few good P5 transfers every year who'd contribute when they were moving from average to solidly good too.

Then Carthel comes out and says things like "kids who transfer are quitters".

But our starting QBs both did. We obviously take transfers. Constantly. We should be vocally pro-transfer instead of the opposite.

It might be the difference between picking up another difference maker or two every cycle.

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In fairness I think Carthel's quote was more geared towards players who are big time contributors or stars for their team and then leaving for no reason other than to "play up", not transfers in general.

But I agree, we should take full advantage of the transfer portal. As you said, the one year short term turnarounds are usually fueled by transfers. Plenty of P5 backups would love to come be a star at an FCS school.

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Surely he did not mean that about players who move up a division to further their careers.

I mean, look in the mirror, Coach.

We just got back from the game, we left with 10:00 left in the 2nd quarter, it was really embarrassing, boy the Tarleton fans behind us really let us hear about it.

At least we had some good BBQ at the Hard Eight.

Oh, and that attendance of 20K plus is complete BS, no way that they are even drawing 12K crowds.

It's says 17,230 for tonight's game.

I hope they get audited on ticket sells

AxeEm99 said:

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Tarleton is only the 3rd school in FCS history since 2004 to have 4 straight winning seasons while transitioning. That should tell you everything you need to know about Whitten!

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Tarleton played 4 D2 teams & 2 D1 teams & 2 transitioning D1 teams in 2020.

In 2021 they had 6 wins and 3 were D2.

Last year they went 6-5 with 2 D2 wins. That doesn't count either for winning seasons.

Tarleton will be a great FCS program but come on. Outside of this year they haven't had a real D1 winning season.

Also Whitten couldn't win at Sam. Dude would be atrocious at SFA.

Eh, the topic of the transfer portal is a difficult one and definitely worthy of its own line of discussion.

I do think it's good for players who are not in the right situation or for whatever reason or another will benefit greatly from transferring. 18 year olds make mistakes and sometimes choosing the wrong school happens, it shouldn't be a death sentence for their college career or keep them from going somewhere they'll be happy.

But I think players just jumping ship to go play somewhere else because they think they can play at the same level at a "bigger better" school can have its problems too.

It's certainly worked out well for a few players, look at Brevin Randle, Myles Heard, and Dennis Osageide. Their moves have been massive for them(except one of them turned out to be pretty stupid). And yes, we benefited from it with Self and Maurer, but I think there's a difference to a player coming from being a JUCO school or being buried in their depth chart after already losing the starting job than a player who is already a D1 stud transferring to a slightly bigger, maybe not much better, D1 school.

I don't blame anyone for transferring to a much bigger place like a P5 or something, if they truly think they're good enough and have given enough good tape to compete. If they're that good that could be a much better chance at the NFL, and I don't think anyone can blame them. But going from a school like SFA where you're established and know by the coaches to a C-USA or another FCS school isn't a big enough step up in my opinion to justify it as a way to further your career.

I wouldn't compare transferring to moving up for a better coaching job. You have to think that many of these coaches have families. A huge pay raise and better tools to help you be successful is a no brainer.

BigJack85 said:

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No way but up , from here.

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The SFA motto for the last 20+ years.

TheRevSFA said:

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AxeEm99 said:

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Tarleton is only the 3rd school in FCS history since 2004 to have 4 straight winning seasons while transitioning. That should tell you everything you need to know about Whitten!

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Tarleton played 4 D2 teams & 2 D1 teams & 2 transitioning D1 teams in 2020.

In 2021 they had 6 wins and 3 were D2.

Last year they went 6-5 with 2 D2 wins. That doesn't count either for winning seasons.

Tarleton will be a great FCS program but come on. Outside of this year they haven't had a real D1 winning season.

Also Whitten couldn't win at Sam. Dude would be atrocious at SFA.

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Excellent on point post Rev.

MasterAxe said:

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Ljacks&Longnecks said:

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TheRevSFA said:

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AxeEm99 said:

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Tarleton is only the 3rd school in FCS history since 2004 to have 4 straight winning seasons while transitioning. That should tell you everything you need to know about Whitten!

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Tarleton played 4 D2 teams & 2 D1 teams & 2 transitioning D1 teams in 2020.

In 2021 they had 6 wins and 3 were D2.

Last year they went 6-5 with 2 D2 wins. That doesn't count either for winning seasons.

Tarleton will be a great FCS program but come on. Outside of this year they haven't had a real D1 winning season.

Also Whitten couldn't win at Sam. Dude would be atrocious at SFA.

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Excellent on point post Rev.

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This actually makes me feel worse about the state of SFA.

You make these valid points about Tarleton, yet we sit here and they're 7-3 and we're 3-6 and in dead-ass last in the conference.

Say what you want about them, but their program and our program, right now, trending two vastly different directions.

Not to mention that if they really tried, could have probably scored 80+ on us tonight.

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Oh yeah they're on their way up and we aren't having the same trajectory but my point was more "let's hold off on Whitten"

So, you're now taking pot shots at people outside of these forums. Very classy. Not!

Personally, I think Buckets is a breath of fresh air. I love seeing him doing interviews and what he has to say. He's very good as a color commentary on Jacks games. It's fun to see him living out the 2nd half of his life, interacting with other students, and obviously having fun doing it. Remember, he IS an SFA student and athlete. And I respect what he's already accomplished in his life, including honorably serving our country.

So please leave the guy out of this conversation. Like it or not, everyone is entitled to his/her opinions.

SFA Jack Fanatic said:

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So, you're now taking pot shots at people outside of these forums. Very classy. Not!

Personally, I think Buckets is a breath of fresh air. I love seeing him doing interviews and what he has to say. He's very good as a color commentary on Jacks games. It's fun to see him living out the 2nd half of his life, interacting with other students, and obviously having fun doing it. Remember, he IS an SFA student and athlete. And I respect what he's already accomplished in his life, including honorably serving our country.

So please leave the guy out of this conversation. Like it or not, everyone is entitled to his/her opinions.

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Ah, so it's ok for him to talk about everyone and insult donating alumni on social media but we can't say anything on a public forum? Got it. LONG LIVE PRESIDENT BUCKETS!

Why do you think the rest of the SFA fan base is tired of his crap?

When were you voted to be the spokesman for the entire "rest of the fan base"? That's funny.

You've made a grand total of THREE posts on these forums and been a member for three weeks.

We're starting to get close to the level of forum toxicity that TexAgs has.

The #batteredAggieSyndrome is getting contagious.

SFASawmillGuy said:

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Guys guys guys. Can we all agree we have the best shade of purple in the UAC?

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This is the type of positive attitude we need.

MasterAxe said:

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We're starting to get close to the level of forum toxicity that TexAgs has.

The #batteredAggieSyndrome is getting contagious.

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That means we've made the big time right?

JHard said:

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SFA Jack Fanatic said:

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When were you voted to be the spokesman for the entire "rest of the fan base"? That's funny.

You've made a grand total of THREE posts on these forums and been a member for three weeks.

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And? I'm a graduate of our University and donate to our education, alumni, and athletics.

Why does this Buckets guy get to tell me he's a better fan and person than me?

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He doesn't. As someone that was born in Nacogdoches, remembers a 1-10 season, went to SFA, moved away and landed my first job in a cubicle, I find his 2 year fan boy arrogance annoying. He is entitled to his opinion and you are entitled to yours and the number of post you have made is inconsequential.