Heard that Sam HS has a few.

JMac told me they've got one guy looking at starting his own apparel company, which is something the new NIL rules allow, but that's not an NIL deal as most people would think of it.

In fairness actual barstool sports is much better than "SFA Sawmill".

nacluth said:

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So true. I was going over my proposed list of contractual obligations and after "joining Ed and I during our halftime dance routine," I realized that maybe I'll just let the Purple Lights Fund figure out where my dollars should go.

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Blindsided again....

A KTRE story about SFA FB's Dennis Osagiede says that "about a half dozen" SFA athletes have looked into ways to profit from the NIL rules. Does anyone know who they are, other than Dennis, and what they're doing? Can someone develop a list? I'd love to support them if I can.

The divide between high major and most mid major and below gets wider by the day. Sit on the bench, stay eligible, and get paid. Or, go somewhere on a partial scholarship where I may have a chance to play.

Many schools are in final stages of enacting bonuses.

Some will follow Ole Miss’ lead: immediate $$ to those academically eligible. Some will base pay on GPA. Others will disburse $$ upon graduation.

“Coaches are going to want the (Ole Miss) model.”https://t.co/CnIifPV2XT

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) November 20, 2021

What a joke the NCAA has become. Expect athletes at mid majors to be abandoning ship at even faster levels now, headed to Power Five schools to cash in on the money giveaways for "academic achievement".

Rewards for "academic achievement"?? Ha! Such as merely passing a course? Cha Ching! Getting a "B" or a "C" in a course rather than a "D" or an "F"? Cha Ching! Graduating from college? Cha Ching! Amateurism is dead. The power and money hungry Power Five schools have completely taken over the NCAA and ruined college athletics at the expense of every smaller college who does not have a never-empty ATM in their athletic department.

SFA Jack Fanatic said:

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What a joke the NCAA has become. Expect athletes at mid majors to be abandoning ship at even faster levels now, headed to Power Five schools to cash in on the money giveaways for "academic achievement".

Rewards for "academic achievement"?? Ha! Such as merely passing a course? Cha Ching! Getting a "B" or a "C" in a course rather than a "D" or an "F"? Cha Ching! Graduating from college? Cha Ching! Amateurism is dead. The power and money hungry Power Five schools have completely taken over the NCAA and ruined college athletics at the expense of every smaller college who does not have a never-empty ATM in their athletic department.

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I'm sure this will start some heated discussions, but I do NOT believe college athletes should be paid. They are already getting a free education, room and board, and books. They will leave college without the tremendous financial burden other students have. That is more than enough pay in my opinion.

Student-athletes set to receive additional financial support 🤘#HookEm

— Texas Longhorns (@TexasLonghorns) November 24, 2021

I mean there are still only so many scholarships to go around, so mid majors will still get folks.

Suprisingly, the average NIL deal is fairly low. That kid who made national news for beating UT got 800 bucks and an Applebees gift card for filming a commercial that went national.

What will really affect mid majors in the short term is the new NCAA constitution. They're considering giving conferences the ability to decide if their schools will fund all sports as headcount sports on full scholarships rather than on an equivalency basis like we see for baseball.

That will be a big change for for those sports, but it's what's best for the kids and the big schools have got the money. I'd rather see it go to a kid for passing his classes than 20 million dollar coaching buyouts tbh.

PurpleOut said:

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I wonder what/how much Auhmad Robinson is getting at A&M.

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Track(and probably swimming) is probably a very interesting NIL space. Because you already have big companies that sponsor top athletes to train, but now they can do that while the student remains in college if they want. No longer does Athing Mu have to drop out of school to access that revenue and resources.

Not sure if Auhmad got word of that kind of deal or just wanted a bigger regular stage or facilities. Could be all 3.

But I've been shocked with how low some deals are for ones that aren't like, starting QB at Bama tbh.

One thing that I think would be interesting would be organizing an SFA NIL effort. That could take a few different avenues, from just being a small portal that fans help recruit business into for the athletes to more easily connect, to more coordinated efforts, like trying to find NIL sponsors for the entire women's soccer or basketball team.

Personally, I think the latter has a real chance at success. The dollar numbers on the men's side might be larger, but on the women's side, if we have one of the only sponsored teams around, even a few hundred bucks per player might help our coaches immensely in recruiting.

Unless an alum wants to shell out money for an NIL deal I don't see how a local Nac business is going to benefit from a NIL deal with a student athlete.

You have a bunch of chain restaurants that don't care who we have as players unless there is a big upset (Duke/Bain) because people are going to go there no matter what.

Most local businesses are already well established and college kids aren't buying cars from Tipton or Rex Perry. When was the last time you saw a commerical for Butcher Boys?

The TV market isn't just Nacogdoches so you are competing with Longview, Tyler, and Lufkin as well.

Unless they are just big SFA supporters or want to do it out of the kindness of their heart I don't see many businesses doing any sort of NIL deals.

sfajack05 said:

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Unless an alum wants to shell out money for an NIL deal I don't see how a local Nac business is going to benefit from a NIL deal with a student athlete.

You have a bunch of chain restaurants that don't care who we have as players unless there is a big upset (Duke/Bain) because people are going to go there no matter what.

Most local businesses are already well established and college kids aren't buying cars from Tipton or Rex Perry. When was the last time you saw a commerical for Butcher Boys?

The TV market isn't just Nacogdoches so you are competing with Longview, Tyler, and Lufkin as well.

Unless they are just big SFA supporters or want to do it out of the kindness of their heart I don't see many businesses doing any sort of NIL deals.

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You do have to think outside the box a bit for SFA, but there's definitely more opportunities than just tv money. Social media is a huge area of opportunity locally.

• Car dealers can have autograph sessions/meet & greets
• Clothing Boutiques can hire athletes as models.
• Gyms can do spokesman deals, etc.
• Restaurants can host a "meet Zya" night.

I think everyone would be surprised with how cheap some of these deals can be. Median NIL deal on Opendorse a few months back was $38 dollars.

We're not talking about any of our athletes getting big time dollars, but more spending money and in some cases, gift cards to the business. And compared to our peers at Sam, Tarleton, TX State? That's a recruiting advantage if we have it and they don't.

TallTexan said:

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sfajack05 said:

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Unless an alum wants to shell out money for an NIL deal I don't see how a local Nac business is going to benefit from a NIL deal with a student athlete.

You have a bunch of chain restaurants that don't care who we have as players unless there is a big upset (Duke/Bain) because people are going to go there no matter what.

Most local businesses are already well established and college kids aren't buying cars from Tipton or Rex Perry. When was the last time you saw a commerical for Butcher Boys?

The TV market isn't just Nacogdoches so you are competing with Longview, Tyler, and Lufkin as well.

Unless they are just big SFA supporters or want to do it out of the kindness of their heart I don't see many businesses doing any sort of NIL deals.

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You do have to think outside the box a bit for SFA, but there's definitely more opportunities than just tv money. Social media is a huge area of opportunity locally.

• Car dealers can have autograph sessions/meet & greets
• Clothing Boutiques can hire athletes as models.
• Gyms can do spokesman deals, etc.
• Restaurants can host a "meet Zya" night.

I think everyone would be surprised with how cheap some of these deals can be. Median NIL deal on Opendorse a few months back was $38 dollars.

We're not talking about any of our athletes getting big time dollars, but more spending money and in some cases, gift cards to the business. And compared to our peers at Sam, Tarleton, TX State? That's a recruiting advantage if we have it and they don't.

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Good ideas, Texan. But ideas without actions are just... ideas.

SFA Jack Fanatic said:

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Good ideas, Texan. But ideas without actions are just... ideas.

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I don't have the time right now but if I get some of these house projects knocked out by January, I'm gonna see about working on this problem.

TallTexan said:

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sfajack05 said:

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Unless an alum wants to shell out money for an NIL deal I don't see how a local Nac business is going to benefit from a NIL deal with a student athlete.

You have a bunch of chain restaurants that don't care who we have as players unless there is a big upset (Duke/Bain) because people are going to go there no matter what.

Most local businesses are already well established and college kids aren't buying cars from Tipton or Rex Perry. When was the last time you saw a commerical for Butcher Boys?

The TV market isn't just Nacogdoches so you are competing with Longview, Tyler, and Lufkin as well.

Unless they are just big SFA supporters or want to do it out of the kindness of their heart I don't see many businesses doing any sort of NIL deals.

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You do have to think outside the box a bit for SFA, but there's definitely more opportunities than just tv money. Social media is a huge area of opportunity locally.

• Car dealers can have autograph sessions/meet & greets
• Clothing Boutiques can hire athletes as models.
• Gyms can do spokesman deals, etc.
• Restaurants can host a "meet Zya" night.

I think everyone would be surprised with how cheap some of these deals can be. Median NIL deal on Opendorse a few months back was $38 dollars.

We're not talking about any of our athletes getting big time dollars, but more spending money and in some cases, gift cards to the business. And compared to our peers at Sam, Tarleton, TX State? That's a recruiting advantage if we have it and they don't.

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Are you suggesting that a high school kid is going to pick SFA because they can get a $38 NIL deal?

I had a "meet Zya" at the gas pump a couple of months ago. Didn't buy her gas because that would be an NCAA violation.

SFAJack_76 said:

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TallTexan said:

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sfajack05 said:

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Unless an alum wants to shell out money for an NIL deal I don't see how a local Nac business is going to benefit from a NIL deal with a student athlete.

You have a bunch of chain restaurants that don't care who we have as players unless there is a big upset (Duke/Bain) because people are going to go there no matter what.

Most local businesses are already well established and college kids aren't buying cars from Tipton or Rex Perry. When was the last time you saw a commerical for Butcher Boys?

The TV market isn't just Nacogdoches so you are competing with Longview, Tyler, and Lufkin as well.

Unless they are just big SFA supporters or want to do it out of the kindness of their heart I don't see many businesses doing any sort of NIL deals.

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You do have to think outside the box a bit for SFA, but there's definitely more opportunities than just tv money. Social media is a huge area of opportunity locally.

• Car dealers can have autograph sessions/meet & greets
• Clothing Boutiques can hire athletes as models.
• Gyms can do spokesman deals, etc.
• Restaurants can host a "meet Zya" night.

I think everyone would be surprised with how cheap some of these deals can be. Median NIL deal on Opendorse a few months back was $38 dollars.

We're not talking about any of our athletes getting big time dollars, but more spending money and in some cases, gift cards to the business. And compared to our peers at Sam, Tarleton, TX State? That's a recruiting advantage if we have it and they don't.

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Are you suggesting that a high school kid is going to pick SFA because they can get a $38 NIL deal?

I had a "meet Zya" at the gas pump a couple of months ago. Didn't buy her gas because that would be an NCAA violation.

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If a larger number of SFA athletes are getting cash from NIL deals here and there that's going to reflect more positively on SFA than a school where they're not.


I suspect there's some number out there were the likelihood of picking SFA over a peer increases, but I'm not sure how high that number has to go. That Kansas walkon was ecstatic about his $800 dollar statewide applebees deal.

I think there could be a strategic advantage if say, local businesses combined to sign say, all the athletes on the women's basketball team. I'm betting the number is as low as $200 a month if a recruit is torn between SFA & say Lamar. Basically, I think we could strategically start to buy our way into conversations with better recruits if SFA was a known friendly NIL destination for our size.

Texas Boosters just announced a 10 million dollar NIL fund.

My college roomates son plays at OU on scholarship and he gets $2200 per month for NIL through a Booster fund like the one Texan is talking about

That's basically my paycheck for a month without the scholarship.

Wild amounts of money.

But I'd rather it go to the kids than tearing down and rebuilding the lockerroom every 6 months or to extra millions for the coaches.

I hope financial counselors and retirement accounts come with all that money. Those kids should have a solid financial nest egg coming out of college despite not getting to play sports after school.

TallTexan said:

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Texas Boosters just announced a 10 million dollar NIL fund.

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Prominent U of Texas donors, former Texas athletes and sports marketer Nick Shuley are launching Clark Field Collective, which has secured an initial pledge commitment of $10 million for Texas NIL activities. “It’s the game changer,” Shuley told @On3sports

— Eric Prisbell (@EricPrisbell) December 1, 2021

I have partnered up @FanBasisInc Go download and check out the app https://t.co/3THFHVuOYv let's get to know each other.. I have things listed for us to become friends.. 🔥😬 pic.twitter.com/VfOc4MpJr6

— Day🔌 (@_DayHall_) May 5, 2022

SFAJack_76 said:

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I have partnered up @FanBasisInc Go download and check out the app https://t.co/3THFHVuOYv let's get to know each other.. I have things listed for us to become friends.. 🔥😬 pic.twitter.com/VfOc4MpJr6

— Day🔌 (@_DayHall_) May 5, 2022

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Very creative ideas. Will other SFA athletes follow his lead?? Anything to beat off the hounds of other schools trying to steal our guys and gals.