I'll have to find the article, but I think the 2008 expected cost with Bo Pilgrim Park was 17 mil.

I just don't see that ever getting invested into this program. I don't think we ever intended to invest much in the program.

Also noteworthy, Baker Patillo told a parent when the stadium fell through, that the athletic department had never consulted the uni leadership on restarting the program.

Interesting, makes you wonder what battles the new AD will have with the powers that be over the topic of baseball at SFA.

SFA:1 (3-17; 0-4)
UVU:11 (5-12; 2-2)
Final (7 innings)

Utah Valley snaps their losing ways as they get 11 runs off of 13 hits
SFA 1 run off of 3 hits

Cole Hill the lone bright spot on offense for the Jacks, with his second straight game with a HR (his 3rd of the season; need more of this with runners on base)

SFA pitching K's 4 walks 4 with 11ER's
Utah Valley K's 10 walks 1 with 1 ER

Jacks try to avoid 17 straight loses today at 3:05
ESPN+

SFA:5 (3-18; 0-5)
UVUL:7 (6-12; 3-2)
Final

SFA was actually in this one, after taking a 4-0 lead in the 1st, UVU shot right back (as they always do) scoring in 3 straight innings to take a 6-4 lead in the bottom of the 4th.

But the Jacks answered with a RBI single in the top of the 5th making the score 6-5.

UVU had 4 HR's in this one going back up by 2 in the top of the 9th

SFA had their chance with one aboard and the tying run at the plate in Nolan Brown, but he pops out to center field ending the game.

Not a bad outing by SFA pitcher Reid Boyett who goes the distance, giving up 7 runs (all earned) off of 10 hits, fans 9 and walks 3.

UVU goes for the sweep tomorrow at 12:05 PM ESPN+

UVU completes the sweep with ease.

UVU:12 (7-12; 4-2)
SFA:2 (3-19; 0-6)
Final (7 innings) 4th mercy ruling on the season

UVU scores in 5 of the 7 innings, 12 runs off of 11 hits (4 more HR's)
SFA scores 2 runs off of 7 hits while committing 3 errors.

UVU pitching K's 3 (lots of pop and ground outs) and walks 3
SFA K's 6, walks 3

Bourge and Griffin supply the only offense with a double and a single RBI

Back to Texas for a 3-game series with UTA in Arlington Mar. 22 - 24 starting at 6:30 Fri.

The Mavs (7-13; 3-3) are in a bit of a slump losing 2 straight and 4 of their last 5.

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I love our coach but man I think its time to move on from him... The best we've done in the past with him is finished second in Southland in 2011 since then its been a decline. Right now we are currently 297 in RPI out of 305 teams. I really hope our new AD looks at Baseball and reevaluates it. The sponsorship with Pilgrim I thought would be a step in the right direction but I guess not.

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All of this.

And yes. It's time to move on. "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I get our facilities are subpar, but good lord, I'd at least rather let someone else try.

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I'll be interested to hear what exactly the Pilgrims Park partnership adds to the mix.

My only guess an appeal to recruits. But my friend and I discussed it really isn't the eye catching thing that would bring someone in. A stadium on campus would do it but that's a long shot.

It seems Ivey left for a reason. Rumors are swirling that major budget cuts are looming. This will affect all sports but football. It is the only sport capable of generating revenue that is needed to sustain the foreseeable budget needs. It is possible SFA will rejoin the SLC to reduce travel cost as well. Bo pilgrim park upgrades are still a possibility depending on the new AD. Changes are coming.

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It seems Ivey left for a reason. Rumors are swirling that major budget cuts are looming. This will affect all sports but football. It is the only sport capable of generating revenue that is needed to sustain the foreseeable budget needs. It is possible SFA will rejoin the SLC to reduce travel cost as well. Bo pilgrim park upgrades are still a possibility depending on the new AD. Changes are coming.

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Rumors of budget cuts are not why Ivey went to La Tech.

You are correct. Among other things. He did not believe in taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

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You are correct. Among other things. He did not believe in taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

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What makes you believe this? Sources?

Only 1 source I will not name. The athletic department has been trying to elevate SFA athletics since at least 2020. When COVID hit SFA was trying on a national level to prove we were FBS worthy. We played Memphis, SMU, UTSA and UTEP even petitioned to play in a FBS Bowl. In 2021 Ivey was proud to announce SFA would joint the WAC. This was in anticipation of the jump to FBS, supposedly a five year plan. He knew football was the catalyst for growing the athletic department. He saw the writing on the wall and made a change for him and his family. At least 1 person is acknowledging the fact that the transfer portal is decimating the SFA athletic program. There are people asking why they pour money into programs where the athletes have entered the transfer portal and left within a year. These questions are long overdue and hopefully answers will come soon.

I understand completely. All sports should back each other for the benefit of everyone. I attended a couple basketball games this year so I could see for myself what the attendance was like. At 1 game there was close to 1,000 people . The second game maybe 300. Attendance was not what I expected. Seats need to be sold to generate revenue. Concessions and souvenirs revolve around people being in the seats.

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I understand completely. All sports should back each other for the benefit of everyone. I attended a couple basketball games this year so I could see for myself what the attendance was like. At 1 game there was close to 1,000 people . The second game maybe 300. Attendance was not what I expected. Seats need to be sold to generate revenue. Concessions and souvenirs revolve around people being in the seats.Yep

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Yep. Before Covid levels we averaged 3,782 in 2018 and womens it was 1808. Now I wonder what our average. Probably no where close to those numbers.

Source was a Facebook memory that popped up today,

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Only 1 source I will not name. The athletic department has been trying to elevate SFA athletics since at least 2020. When COVID hit SFA was trying on a national level to prove we were FBS worthy. We played Memphis, SMU, UTSA and UTEP even petitioned to play in a FBS Bowl. In 2021 Ivey was proud to announce SFA would joint the WAC. This was in anticipation of the jump to FBS, supposedly a five year plan. He knew football was the catalyst for growing the athletic department. He saw the writing on the wall and made a change for him and his family. At least 1 person is acknowledging the fact that the transfer portal is decimating the SFA athletic program. There are people asking why they pour money into programs where the athletes have entered the transfer portal and left within a year. These questions are long overdue and hopefully answers will come soon.

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I guess going 0-6 in conference play, in the new UAC was the final nail in the coffin.

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I understand completely. All sports should back each other for the benefit of everyone. I attended a couple basketball games this year so I could see for myself what the attendance was like. At 1 game there was close to 1,000 people . The second game maybe 300. Attendance was not what I expected. Seats need to be sold to generate revenue. Concessions and souvenirs revolve around people being in the seats.Yep

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Yep. Before Covid levels we averaged 3,782 in 2018 and womens it was 1808. Now I wonder what our average. Probably no where close to those numbers.

Source was a Facebook memory that popped up today,

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Your Facebook memory is accurate and the timing was critical. Covid hit a largely residential university hard.


The first year of Covid I believe we averaged about 1500/game. This year (2023/2024) we averaged close to 2300/game. Doesn't seem like much but when you factor in the number of Christmas/New Year holidays contests that had attendance of about 1,200 you can see that the marquee games (GCU, ACU and CBU) were reasonably well attended. I believe the attendance for GCU was about 3,650. I was at 3 games NAU, GCU and ACU and they were all relatively well attended.

If Keller can start a season on a little bit of a roll (6-1 or 7-2) we will probably see interest rise significantly.

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Currently down 16-3 top of 7th

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Currently down 16-3 top of 7th

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Debacle. I feel bad for Cardenas and the boys.

Yep! Currently riding a 19-game losing streak

Never seen anything like it.

SFA:3 (3-20; 0-7)
UTA:16 (8-14; 4-3)
Final - 7th

UTA 16 runs off of 8 hits, 3 separate players for UTA with 3 RBI's.
SFA 3 runs off of 8 hits, Parker with 2 RBI's

UTA pitching, all by one pitcher, 5K's and 2 walks, 3 ERs
SFA pitching 3 pitchers 4K's, 9 walks, 15 ERs

SFA:2
UTA:5
Bottom of the 7th

All the announcers seem to talk about is the nations longest losing streak.

UTA loads the bases with one out.

sac fly 6-2 UTA

Double to right field

7-2

base hit

9-2

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base hit

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I'm trying to laugh.

SFA has stranded 9 base runners with 10 hits, just can't get them home.

Lawson with a quick bottom of the 8th, as he retires the side.

Last chance for the Jacks

9-2 UTA.

Hill with a one out single to center field