While I enjoy your optimism Sawmill Guy, to say that we 100% should have won the game is a bit of a stretch.
For that to be true the offense would have had to do a much better job than they managed to do. The O line got a good lesson in football from the UNT defensive front. Most running plays were stymied to a one yard gain.
We failed several times to gain that 1 to 2 yards needed on a 4th down. Offense was far too inconsistent last night and didn't earn a first down until well into the 2nd quarter.
Looking at the overall picture at UNT--I was pleased that we were competitive for the whole game. Very pleased with many aspects of the defense play. Offense was held in check outside of a few pass plays, has lots of work to do.
I hope and expect the offense to rise up now as we head into the FCS part of the schedule, but they did not deliver a winning hand last night.

After 2

QB: #15 SAM VIDLAK 6-1; 207 (JR.)
G:2;ATT:47;CMP:28;CMP%:60.0;YDS:469;TD:6;INT:1;/R:0;YDS:0;TD:0
QB: #13 GAVIN RUTHERFORD 6-3; 210 (R/FR.)
G:1;ATT:5;CMP:4;CMP%:80.0;YDS:60;TD:0;INT:0;/R:1;YDS:6;TD:1
QB: #12 DALTON MCELYEA 6-3; 196 (JR.)
G:1;ATT:2;CMP:2;CMP%:100.0;YDS:35;TD:2;INT:0;/R:1;YDS:6;TD:0

RB: #23 QUALAN JONES 5-10; 242 (JR.)
G:2;ATT:17;YDS:142;AVG:8.4;TD:1/REC:2;YDS:1;TD:0
RB: #24 JAYLEN JENKINS 5-11; 185 (SO.)
G:2;ATT:25;YDS:130;AVG:5.2;TD:2/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
RB: #28 DEAGO BENSON 5-11; 205 (R/FR.)
G:1;ATT:5;YDS:47;AVG:9.4;TD:0/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
RB: #35 CHRIS MARTINEZ 5-11; 195 (FR.)
G:1;ATT:3;YDS:15;AVG:5.0;TD:0/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
RB: #30 LUKE ULLRICH 5-10; 190 (FR.)
G:1;ATT:1;YDS:11;AVG:11.0;TD:0/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
RB: #10 JERRELL WIMBLEY 5-11; 195 (JR.)
G:1;ATT:5;YDS:7;AVG:1.4;TD:0/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
RB: #8 ANTHONY WILLIAMS 6-1; 211 (JR.)
G:1;ATT:0;YDS:0;AVG:0.0;TD:0/REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0

WR: #4 KYLON HARRIS 5-11; 160 (JR.)
G:2;REC:13;YDS:189;TD:1
WR: #18 JORDAN NABORS 5-11; 185 (SO.)
G:2;REC:4;YDS:83;TD:1
WR: #17 ROHAN FLUELLEN 5-11; 170 (R/FR.)
G:2;REC:3;YDS:73;TD:1
WR: #7 BLAINE GREEN 6-1; 213 (SO.)
G:2;REC:3;YDS:64;TD:1
WR: #14 ISAIAH DAVIS 6-3; 190 (SO.)
G:2;REC:1;YDS:33;TD:1
WR: #87 TA'ERIK TATE 6-1; 180 (FR.)
G:1;REC:1;YDS:28;TD:0
WR: #81 CHRIS TAYLOR 5-10; 175 (JR.)
G:2;REC:2;YDS:23;TD:1
WR: #19 TY LOVE 6-2; 200 (SR.)
G:2;REC:1;YDS:18;TD:1
WR: #84 DAX BRIDGES 5-10; 190 (JR.)
G:1;REC:1;YDS:17;TD:1
WR: #83 CANNON LEMBERG 6-0; 170 (FR.)
G:2;REC:1;YDS:13;TD:0
WR: #82 TYJUAN ATKINS 6-0; 190 (SR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
WR: #43 JONAH ROBERSON 5-11; 140 (R/FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
WR: #20 ISAAC JONES 5-11; 185 (R/FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
WR: #11 DERRICK BOHLER 6-2; 201 (R/FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
WR: #21 CLAYTON WAYLAND 6-3; 200 (FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
WR: #27 STETSON SURRATT 5-10; 165 (FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0

TE: #88 LAVAR LINDO 6-4; 245 (JR.)
G:2;REC:3;YDS:22;TD:0
TE: #33 CONNOR MULLINS 6-0; 250 (JR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
TE: #44 AMAREUS WALKER 6-6; 225 (R/FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
TE: #86 GERARD EDIMO 6-4; 232 (R/FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0
TE: #45 JAXON HART 6-3; 230 (FR.)
G:1;REC:0;YDS:0;TD:0

OL: #71 ROBERT KELLER 6-7; 310 (JR.) GP:2
OL: #56 JAKE HENRY 6-3; 290 (G-SR.) GP:2
OL: #73 NATE ADAMS 6-7; 321 (SR.) GP:2
OL: #72 DARREN WIANCKO 6-2; 300 (JR.) GP:2
OL: #77 JAYMON LAMB 6-5; 250 (R/FR.) GP:2
OL: #57 JARED MANOS 6-0; 250 (JR.) GP:2
OL: #74 GIOVANNY ALEGRIA 6-6; 335 (JR.) GP:2
OL: #55 ERIK GRAY 6-1; 280 (SO.) GP:2
OL: #50 WILL THOMPSON V 5-11; 265 (JR.) GP:1
OL: #68 SETH MARTIN 6-3; 285 (SO.) GP:1
OL: #54 CHIMDIA NWAIWU 6-6; 255 (SO.) GP:1
OL: #61 JASON CROWDER 6-1; 290 (R/FR.) GP:1
OL: #67 KOLT DE LA TORRE 6-2; 310 (R/FR.) GP:1
OL: #66 CAMERON VARGAS 6-4; 280 (FR.) GP:1

DL: #22 XAVIER POTTS 6-0; 315 (R/FR.)
G:2;TKL:6;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #99 VICTOR IDUSUYI 6-1; 325 (JR.)
G:2;TKL:5;TFL:2.5;SCK:1.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #3 EDWARD BOBINO III 6-2; 340 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:5;TFL:2.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #2 AARON AUSTIN 6-2; 210 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:3;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:2;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #96 KAIDEN TURNER 6-2; 250 (R/FR.)
G:1;TKL:2;TFL:0.5;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #49 TIM MUHAMMAD 6-4; 230 (R/FR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.5;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:1;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #91 ELIJAH FIELDS 5-11; 270 (SO.)
G:1;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:1;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #97 KY THOMAS 6-3; 250 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:1;TFL:0.5;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #23 TREVION SNEED 6-1; 260 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #58 JOEY FINLEY 6-3; 240 (SO.)
G:1;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #95 K'MARD KIMBLE 6-2; 300 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DL: #92 NICHOLAS PEREZ 6-2; 255 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0

LB: #36 JAYDON SOUTHARD 6-0; 210 (JR.)
G:2;TKL:9;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:1;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #14 JOSIAH COTTON 5-11; 232 (G/SR.)
G:2;TKL:8;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:1;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #0 JERMAINE BROWN 6-1; 210 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:4;TFL:1.0;SCK:1.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:1;BLK:0
LB: #25 LUKE WATSON 6-2; 225 (JR.)
G:2;TKL:4;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:1;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:1;BLK:0
LB: #26 TONY ANYWANU 6-2; 246 (JR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:1.0;SCK:1.0;QBH:1;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #11 LANE LEWIS 6-2; 215 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #45 JEMARI SEALS 6-0; 210 (SO.)
G:1;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #42 MICHAEL WOODS 6-3; 220 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #32 DANIEL ANENIH 6-2; 230 (JR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #51 FAVOUR AWODOYIN 6-4; 217 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
LB: #39 LOWOTE JURKIN 6-4; 220 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0

DB: #15 TRASHAWN ADAMS 5-11; 190 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:8;TFL:2.0;SCK:1.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #5 JEREMIAH WALKER 6-0; 200 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:7;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:1;INT:0
DB: #13 AARON SEARS 5-10; 190 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:6;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #1 BRUCE HARMON 6-0; 200 (SR.)
G:1;TKL:4;TFL:1.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:1;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:1
DB: #29 MIKE PATTERSON 5-11; 162 (R/FR.)
G:2;TKL:3;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #17 DONOAVAN LANG 6-0; 175 (FR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:1.5;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:1;INT:0
DB: #35 JORDAN JACKSON 6-1; 177 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.5;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #20 JAHEIM MULLEN 6-0; 204 (G/SR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:1;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #6 CHARLES DEMMINGS 6-1; 185 (JR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #9 DYLAN TOOKER 5-9; 190 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #12 MONTEGO JOHNSON 5-11; 187 (SR.)
G:2;TKL:2;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #89 COLE LEMONS 6-3; 185 (SO.)
G:2;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:1;BLK:0
DB: #28 JAKE GILLESPIE 5-9; 180 (FR.)
G:2;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #37 JAYVIN MAYFIELD 6-0; 175 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #27 TYLER HUTCHERSON 5-9; 160 (R/FR)
G:2;TKL:1;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #21 JALIN HUGHES 6-1; 185 (SR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #30 HOLLIS ROBINSON 5-11; 181 (SO.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0;BLK:0
DB: #46 MAKALI MCKELLAR 5-10; 180 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #18 JACOB ROOKS 5-10; 185 (SO.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0
DB: #38 KAMERON REDDIC 6-0; 185 (FR.)
G:1;TKL:0;TFL:0.0;SCK:0.0;QBH:0;FF:0;FR:0;PD:0;INT:0

LS: #47 TUG SANFORD 6-0; 200 (SO.) GP:2

P: #22 CALLUM EDDINGS 5-11; 155 (JR.)
G:2;ATT:6;YDS:246;LNG:50;AVG:41.0;TB:0;FC:5;I20:2;50+:1;BLK:0

K: #41 CHRIS CAMPOS 5-11; 255 (SR.)
G:2;FGA:2;FGM:2;LNG:40;EXPA:13;EXPM:13

K: #40 JACOB HAND 5-10; 160 (R/FR.)
G:2;KO:17;YDS:1,038;AVG:61.1;TB:8;OB:0

SFAXE93 said:

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"Campos is still automatic. Would love to see us use him more when drives stall out in his range instead of going for it when we don't need to."

I agree totally, you have an All-American PK that can get you points and chip away at the lead.

Get what Carthel is doing going for it at times, (no guts no glory) easy to criticize on the hindsight, but seems points are left on the table.

Doesn't matter though, that 80-yard UNT TD run was the killer.

1st Q - SFA on the UNT 45, drive stalls at the UNT 36, turnover on downs, possible 3 points
3rd Q - SFA on the SFA 25, drive stalls at the UNT 26, turnover on downs, possible 3 points
4th Q - SFA on the SFA 25, drive stalls at the UNT 24, turnover on downs, possible 3 points (14:16 remaining)

1 for 6 on 4th down

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This 100% there was 3 times were a Field Goal would have been suffice but yet we went for on fourth when it wasn't needed at all. Like JUST KICK IT!

I personally don't have a problem with going for on 4th down for this particular game. It was non-conference and gives the coaches an opportunity to obtain in competitive situational play film to evaluate. Utilizing the film to prep for when it counts in conference play going for it on 4th down. I would have expected better than 1 in 6 even considering UNT quality defensive players across the line from SFA. The pass to the running back on fourth down was open but unfortunately dropped. The other short yardage plays on 4th down the coaches need to determine was the offensive line out match, blocking technique wrong or can a wrinkle be added to get those 1 to 2 yards. We had trouble up the middle most of the day.
I expect in conference play unless we are over matched the decision would be different for a few of the situation seen in the UNT game.

South Alabama, who got run over by UNT, destroyed NWST 87-10 last night.