Campus Master Plan 2024-2025

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In reply to SCH890 • 1:51p, 9/26/25
SCH890 said:
wawwhite said:
I'm interested in others' opinions on relocating the Stone Fort issue. Since the architects will be well-compensated, there should be enough creative expertise to both preserve the Stone Fort in place and construct a new Science Building.

I guess I'm indifferent on the matter. Its a replica of the original but replica is old as 1936. I would assume the builders/architects have thought about this matter and won't just tear it down for no reason at all. I don't believe the sense that it will lose its Texas Historical Building status if it is moved.

I get the historical sense and the coolness but I think I only went into it once my whole time I was at SFA. Even though I remember people said its bad luck to go in and you won't graduate in four years..

In the end I hope they keep it. But at the same time I won't be heart broken if they do end up moving it to place where more people can enjoy and actually tour it instead of going to SFA campus for it.


This is about how I feel.

I'm not so super attached to it, but would like to see it preserved in general. If that's relocated to elsewhere in Nac, fine with me.

Encompassed inside glass in the new building? Also fine.

Moved to the edge of the football field and ol cotton is fired out a window? Sure!

Demolished and the stones are launched trebuchet style at those scoundrels down in Huntsville? I could live with that.
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3:30p, 9/26/25
The original Old Stone Fort was located on the town's Plaza Principal, near the intersection of the El Camino Real and what is now Main and Fredonia streets.

Would it possible somehow to clear a spot and put it on the original historical grown?

1901 when the original was down on Main, it was dismantled before.



Kind of like the Alamo in the middle of San Antonio.

Would make a great tourist stop.
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3:33p, 9/26/25
I for one am fine with the idea of loading the fort into a cannon and firing it at Bowers stadium.
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In reply to SFAXE93 • 4:39p, 9/27/25
SFAXE93 said:
Would it possible somehow to clear a spot and put it on the original historical ground?

The original spot would be inside the lobby of Commercial Bank. Actually there was a guy a few years ago that wanted to sue the Bank to have them reconstruct it inside their lobby which he had determined to be big enough to easily fit it.

The scuttlebutt from the local historical societies is that they're opposed to the move but realize that there may need to be some concessions. How much pushback is yet to be determined.

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In reply to SFASawmillGuy • 7:28a, 9/30/25
SFASawmillGuy said:
I for one am fine with the idea of loading the fort into a cannon and firing it at Bowers stadium.


A little late, but this gets my vote for Post of the Day!
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8:36a, 10/3/25
Worth your time.
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1:10p, 10/4/25
Very encouraging and excellent interview by Shawn Clynch. It sounds like we may be FINALLY headed in the right direction with Athletics and the Institution as a whole. Axe Em!
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9:46a, 10/9/25
I have a question and am posting it in the Master Plan Forum, as I am unsure if there is a more appropriate venue. Does SFA have a master plan for academic expansion? Are there any new degree programs planned, including new master's or doctoral programs? I think academics need to grow as well, not just the physical footprint.
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In reply to wawwhite • 10:42a, 10/9/25
wawwhite said:
I have a question and am posting it in the Master Plan Forum, as I am unsure if there is a more appropriate venue. Does SFA have a master plan for academic expansion? Are there any new degree programs planned, including new master's or doctoral programs? I think academics need to grow as well, not just the physical footprint.


I don't know about a "academics master plan" but I did read where our new provost is seeking to enhance SFA's research profile.

What precisely that entails is out of my depth. I did read in one of the UT System documents that SFA is asking for funding for a "Power Engineering Program". I might be stating the exact title wrong but it sounds like something that would be useful with the coming proliferation of data centers.
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In reply to BigJack85 • 1:22p, 10/9/25
BigJack85 said:
wawwhite said:
I have a question and am posting it in the Master Plan Forum, as I am unsure if there is a more appropriate venue. Does SFA have a master plan for academic expansion? Are there any new degree programs planned, including new master's or doctoral programs? I think academics need to grow as well, not just the physical footprint.


I don't know about a "academics master plan" but I did read where our new provost is seeking to enhance SFA's research profile.

What precisely that entails is out of my depth. I did read in one of the UT System documents that SFA is asking for funding for a "Power Engineering Program". I might be stating the exact title wrong but it sounds like something that would be useful with the coming proliferation of data centers.

We used to have a very cool research institute with GIS apparently back in the day. Then it lost funding and it went away. Would love to see it make a return.
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In reply to wawwhite • 4:15p, 10/9/25
I'm a moron, I should have posted this in the General Academic thread.
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2:14p
I honestly don't know whether tearing down the stone fort and building a new replica is the right call or not, but undeniably the building then does lose historic status if that is the choice made. Even if they could somehow lift it and move it intact (which is structurally impossible due to how it is constructed), moving a historic building automatically means it is deleted from the National Register of Historic Places.

To be eligible for the National Register of Historic Places a building must be over 50 years old and associated with a major historical figure or event. A 1936 building constructed for the Texas Centennial qualifies. A new building associated with a campus master plan doesn't. It can still function as a ln East Texas history museum in a different location, it just won't be a Historic building any longer.
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In reply to NacMan • 2:19p
Wasn't the Master Plan drawn up by " professionals" that do that kind of work for a living?
How hard would it be to work around the Stone Fort in it's current location? It's not my field so that is a serious question.
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3:15p
Well the Stone Fort has brought about a lot of passion both locally and with alumni - a lot more than most people have shown it in the last 30 years. I take my kids up there every couple of years. They do a decent job rotating the visiting exhibits and the permanent collection is solid.

I collect National Parks stamps (along with a sizable number of people), and one nice thing is that though not on it now, the Stone Fort does have a stamp as part of the El Camino Real National Historic Trail. They get some visitors for that.

It used to be a standard 4th grade (Texas History) field trip, but my kids did not go in their years.

Honestly, I can't imagine the issue being of one of much immediacy despite a master plan. The square footage of the Stone Fort like many old buildings is quite small despite its central location - unless we're tearing down the solid edifice of the science building.
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