Campus Master Plan 2024-2025

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SFAJack_76
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BigJack85
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wawwhite said:

If it is for entrepreneurship, why not expand the COB building? Regardless, UT affiliation is proving to be beneficial.


Weaver explained that he wanted entrepreneurship to be integrated with all colleges.
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SFAJack_76
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SCH890
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New Map Drop (August 13th)
https://www.sfasu.edu/sites/default/files/campus-master-plan-draft-illustrative-plan.webp

People seemed to be concerned about Stone Fort being moved. I assume it would go Downtown which sucks it won't be on campus anymore but I'm not sure what the better plan would be.
wawwhite
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Ignorant question on my part. Does the master plan show what is planned and will be built or what we would like to be built?
TallTexan
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Is that moving the football field itself or the stuff around it?
TallTexan
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Things I like, moving to parking garages and closing east college allows for a lot more green space on campus, which I think will make the campus even more beautiful. New science building will be incredibly nice.

I didn't expect them to find a spot for baseball/softball there, but I can see it. Those will be incredibly expensive projects though.

I'm still made we didn't acquire more of the southwest corner of campus when given the opportunity. Just an absolutely boneheaded move.

I'm kind of surprised the main quad didn't get more attention, but I suppose those buildings are serviceable.
TallTexan
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I don't have a strong opinion on the fort tbh, as long as they do plan to successfully relocate it. It could be a good draw for downtown area, if downtown has the space for something like that.

I think it was cool to walk past on campus, but I've only ever been in once. But it has been on campus nearly as long as there's been a campus.

If I had won the powerball and you had asked me what to do with it, I'd have found a way to perch it in the new caddy cornered space on the NW end of the football field. Then I'd have went with that stone cladding on any new football facilities so they looked like they'd been around a good long time.

And I'd have a little plaza facing the visitors stands so you could have Ol Cotton out front. I know, two different eras, but that would look iconic.
TallTexan
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Also I'd hope to see more trees around the new football/soccer/track facilities. If you bring the forest up real close like App State, it gives it a real great look.
wawwhite
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Whatever building goes in the spot where the Stone Fort is needs to be named in honor of it, i.e. Stone Fort Hall. Maybe even designed with elements from it.
SFAJack_76
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wawwhite said:

Ignorant question on my part. Does the master plan show what is planned and will be built or what we would like to be built?

Next steps of this 15 year plan, are cost estimates and priorities. This is expected to be completed by year end. Each major job will have to be presented to the UT System Board for approval.

Expect the top priority to be student housing. Student housing is paid for by revenue bonds. The bonds are paid for by the revenue from the students living in the dorm.

The A, B, C letter on student housing and parking garages does not indicate a priority ranking. They are simply tags for those facilities to be referred to as.

TallTexan
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SFAJack_76 said:

wawwhite said:

Ignorant question on my part. Does the master plan show what is planned and will be built or what we would like to be built?

Next steps of this 15 year plan, are cost estimates and priorities. This is expected to be completed by year end. Each major job will have to be presented to the UT System Board for approval.

Expect the top priority to be student housing. Student housing is paid for by revenue bonds. The bonds are paid for by the revenue from the students living in the dorm.

The A, B, C letter on student housing and parking garages does not indicate a priority ranking. They are simply tags for those facilities to be referred to as.




So obviously UT has to approve, but in general the thought it that all this would be built.

Goodness that has to be like 200+ million in construction. That is awesome for SFA.
NacMan
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Because of the way the Stone Fort is constructed, with irregularly-shaped rocks mortared together to form walls, there is no viable way to "relocate" it. You can't just pick it up like a wood-framed Amish barn and carry it down North street. The only way it can be accomplished is by tearing it down and building a copy elsewhere. If that is what SFA chooses to do as part of their master plan, then so be it. That's up to SFA leadership.

But tearing it down and building a copy does not "preserve" the Stone Fort in any sense.
wahlwesle
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NacMan said:

Because of the way the Stone Fort is constructed, with irregularly-shaped rocks mortared together to form walls, there is no viable way to "relocate" it. You can't just pick it up like a wood-framed Amish barn and carry it down North street. The only way it can be accomplished is by tearing it down and building a copy elsewhere. If that is what SFA chooses to do as part of their master plan, then so be it. That's up to SFA leadership.

But tearing it down and building a copy does not "preserve" the Stone Fort in any sense.

It is already a copy.

"The Perkins family dismantled the building in 1902, but some of its original stones were preserved by Cum Concilio, a civic organization in Nacogdoches. In 1907, the club used the stones for a small building in Washington Square.
Decades later, the New Deal economic program of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration provided funding for the construction of a replica of the old fort on the grounds of Stephen F. Austin State College. Dedication ceremonies were held October 16, 1936."
NacMan
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wahlwesle said:

NacMan said:

Because of the way the Stone Fort is constructed, with irregularly-shaped rocks mortared together to form walls, there is no viable way to "relocate" it. You can't just pick it up like a wood-framed Amish barn and carry it down North street. The only way it can be accomplished is by tearing it down and building a copy elsewhere. If that is what SFA chooses to do as part of their master plan, then so be it. That's up to SFA leadership.

But tearing it down and building a copy does not "preserve" the Stone Fort in any sense.

It is already a copy.

"The Perkins family dismantled the building in 1902, but some of its original stones were preserved by Cum Concilio, a civic organization in Nacogdoches. In 1907, the club used the stones for a small building in Washington Square.
Decades later, the New Deal economic program of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration provided funding for the construction of a replica of the old fort on the grounds of Stephen F. Austin State College. Dedication ceremonies were held October 16, 1936."

This is true, but it is an 89-year old 1936 Texas Centennial celebration building which has its own historical significance. A new copy built in the 2020s would have zero historical significance.

I'm not saying we should save the Stone Fort at all costs, but we should at least be straightforward about what it means to tear it down.
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