I think this is too big, and too important, to not have its own thread. There is a lot of detail already on the web site.
https://www.sfasu.edu/masterplan
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Campus Master Plan 2024-2025
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I had a flashback moment when I saw that Freese and Nichols is the lead on this project. They are an engineering company headquartered in Fort Worth where my father worked for roughly 45 years. He was a civil engineer not long out of UT when he went to work there. After some years, he became a full partner in the firm. He officially retired at the age of 70 when he signed the papers, because it was best financially for his heirs, the day before he died of cancer. He didn't retire earlier because it was a rough period for engineering firms, and he simply couldn't leave at that time. There were many Saturdays in my youth that I went with him to their downtown office to hang out while he worked a half day. When they moved from the downtown office in 1968, I worked for them helping in the packing and moving process.
They have done work in East Texas, including the design and construction of Lake Nacogdoches and the water treatment plant there. I worked for their project manager doing odd jobs, the summer between my junior and senior years at SFA.
https://www.freese.com/
https://www.freese.com/freese-and-nichols-leaders-and-legacies-joe-paul-jones/
They have done work in East Texas, including the design and construction of Lake Nacogdoches and the water treatment plant there. I worked for their project manager doing odd jobs, the summer between my junior and senior years at SFA.
https://www.freese.com/
https://www.freese.com/freese-and-nichols-leaders-and-legacies-joe-paul-jones/
Here are a few of my initial ideas/thoughts but I am not sure if these belong on this forum.
1. SFA needs to expand the campus acreage. Any available property bordering the main campus needs to be purchased. Obtain nonadjacent land within Nacogdoches for a secondary campus for buildings that may not fit on the main academic campus.
2. Expand and add academic programs. A friend of mine stated she wished SFA had a Veterinary College. With the UT systems' backing, SFA could compete with A&M and Tech. It is lofty but not a bad idea.
1. SFA needs to expand the campus acreage. Any available property bordering the main campus needs to be purchased. Obtain nonadjacent land within Nacogdoches for a secondary campus for buildings that may not fit on the main academic campus.
2. Expand and add academic programs. A friend of mine stated she wished SFA had a Veterinary College. With the UT systems' backing, SFA could compete with A&M and Tech. It is lofty but not a bad idea.
Nice write-up about your dad 76.
Thanks.nacluth said:
Nice write-up about your dad 76.
The reason this process is going to take so long is that it is a first for SFA. SFA has never developed a long-term campus plan before. Previous decisions were usually based on short-term analysis only, to meet what were seen as immediate needs. It's a bit shocking to think about a campus going 100 years without any long-term space utilization plan, but that's just how SFA functioned: "We need a new building for X, where can we find enough space on the campus map to plug it in?" The UT system is imposing more a disciplined and strategic approach. They don't just want to know what a system campus will look like in 2-3 years. They want to know what the campus will look like in 20-25 years.
Every existing campus space must first be comprehensively evaluated. I know of multiple buildings (dorms and otherwise) on campus that are sitting vacant or nearly so, and decisions have to made about whether to renovate and use them again or tear them down and repurpose the space. The Campus Master plan will ultimately help guide such decisions.
Every existing campus space must first be comprehensively evaluated. I know of multiple buildings (dorms and otherwise) on campus that are sitting vacant or nearly so, and decisions have to made about whether to renovate and use them again or tear them down and repurpose the space. The Campus Master plan will ultimately help guide such decisions.
NacMan said:
The reason this process is going to take so long is that it is a first for SFA. SFA has never developed a long-term campus plan before. Previous decisions were usually based on short-term analysis only, to meet what were seen as immediate needs. It's a bit shocking to think about a campus going 100 years without any long-term space utilization plan, but that's just how SFA functioned: "We need a new building for X, where can we find enough space on the campus map to plug it in?" The UT system is imposing more a disciplined and strategic approach. They don't just want to know what a system campus will look like in 2-3 years. They want to know what the campus will look like in 20-25 years.
Every existing campus space must first be comprehensively evaluated. I know of multiple buildings (dorms and otherwise) on campus that are sitting vacant or nearly so, and decisions have to made about whether to renovate and use them again or tear them down and repurpose the space. The Campus Master plan will ultimately help guide such decisions.
Spot on. Thanks.
As I said before in another fourm where I posted it. Im glad they have made a website dedicated to the Master Plan. The thing that does kind of suck is we won't see a true master plan document until next October. I do hope we get some renders of the new forestry building soon. But right now it seems like a whole bunch of hey we got a plan but you won't hear any of it until a year from now.
SCH890 said:
As I said before in another fourm where I posted it. Im glad they have made a website dedicated to the Master Plan. The thing that does kind of suck is we won't see a true master plan document until next October. I do hope we get some renders of the new forestry building soon. But right now it seems like a whole bunch of hey we got a plan but you won't hear any of it until a year from now.
I tailgated a couple of weeks ago. The forestry building was open. Out front was a full set of renderings of the new building.
Summary: 4 stories. More than double the square footage. Agricultural Mechanics area. Etc. Etc. Etc.
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There were external and internal building renderings plus a set of 11x17 pages of floor plans. I think it's 60,000 square feet, but don't hold me to that.BigJack85 said:SCH890 said:
As I said before in another fourm where I posted it. Im glad they have made a website dedicated to the Master Plan. The thing that does kind of suck is we won't see a true master plan document until next October. I do hope we get some renders of the new forestry building soon. But right now it seems like a whole bunch of hey we got a plan but you won't hear any of it until a year from now.
I tailgated a couple of weeks ago. The forestry building was open. Out front was a full set of renderings of the new building.
Summary: 4 stories. More than double the square footage. Agricultural Mechanics area. Etc. Etc. Etc.
I will ask if they can get that posted somewhere as they have with the dining hall and did with the Fine Arts building. There may be a reason that they don't want it posted yet.
Oh beauitful wish I could have made it out but being Oregon.. Would have been tough obviously. I do hope they post those renderings some where. Thanks for letting me know!BigJack85 said:SCH890 said:
As I said before in another fourm where I posted it. Im glad they have made a website dedicated to the Master Plan. The thing that does kind of suck is we won't see a true master plan document until next October. I do hope we get some renders of the new forestry building soon. But right now it seems like a whole bunch of hey we got a plan but you won't hear any of it until a year from now.
I tailgated a couple of weeks ago. The forestry building was open. Out front was a full set of renderings of the new building.
Summary: 4 stories. More than double the square footage. Agricultural Mechanics area. Etc. Etc. Etc.
So beauitful. Back to the Modern Era of Forestry from Dr. Williams
Wow. Massive. I like the wood and glass theme our recent construction has been having. I wish we had a little less unfinished concrete on the new basketball facility, but I'm sure we had to cut costs somewhere.
College St. is turning into a nice drive.
College St. is turning into a nice drive.
Nice looking building renderings, which I think will look even nicer once it's up. Can't wait to see it.
Following the final approval for the Forestry building by the UT System BOR in their February meeting, the plan is to create a dedicated page for the project so people can view the renderings and monitor progress with the drone photos that the college is taking throughout. They are also working to set up a couple of cameras that show the construction site so people can view the progress at any time, from anywhere.
This is beauitful. Would love to have more Webcams across campus. Michigan Tech my graduate school does the same.SFAJack_76 said:
Following the final approval for the Forestry building by the UT System BOR in their February meeting, the plan is to create a dedicated page for the project so people can view the renderings and monitor progress with the drone photos that the college is taking throughout. They are also working to set up a couple of cameras that show the construction site so people can view the progress at any time, from anywhere.
https://www.mtu.edu/webcams/
All of it sounds like a great plan to monitor the progress. Im excited. Can't wait to tour it all.
Is this at a new location on campus or same spot as the current forestry building? I'm assuming once this is completed, the old building will be demolished.
Same spot as the existing building. Vacating the existing building is underway. Expect everyone, and everything, to be out in December. Demolition of the existing building is expected to start after final approval to decommission by the UT System BOR at their regular February meeting.wawwhite said:
Is this at a new location on campus or same spot as the current forestry building? I'm assuming once this is completed, the old building will be demolished.
Yes, Dr. Williams confirms that it'll start to be torn down in March after that meeting.SFAJack_76 said:Same spot as the existing building. Vacating the existing building is underway. Expect everyone, and everything, to be out in December. Demolition of the existing building is expected to start after final approval to decommission by the UT System BOR at their regular February meeting.wawwhite said:
Is this at a new location on campus or same spot as the current forestry building? I'm assuming once this is completed, the old building will be demolished.
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